Comments on: After All That, Back to OS X http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/ kinda like batman, but with a wife and 3 kids Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:31:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-1595 Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:24:40 +0000 http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/#comment-1595 Hmmm. Grisbi? Hadn't heard of that one before. It doesn't look like it does online bank account transaction retrieval like Quicken and MoneyDance. And yeah, you're right, MoneyDance does work pretty well up until you try to do an online bank update (uses OFX protocol or something, iirc), then it fails with IBM's JRE. And yeah, actually, KDE PIM is absolutely the best PIM software for any platform I've found. And yeah, I had to break down and pay $40 for The Missing Sync too. =:( And I REALLY miss Flash. Not being able to use websites (google video, anyone?) just kind of sucks a whole, whole lot. Have you tried Mac-On-Linux yet? Is it actually usable? Can it share the same filesystem as Linux like vmware? Hmmm. Grisbi? Hadn’t heard of that one before. It doesn’t look like it does online bank account transaction retrieval like Quicken and MoneyDance. And yeah, you’re right, MoneyDance does work pretty well up until you try to do an online bank update (uses OFX protocol or something, iirc), then it fails with IBM’s JRE.

And yeah, actually, KDE PIM is absolutely the best PIM software for any platform I’ve found. And yeah, I had to break down and pay $40 for The Missing Sync too. =:(

And I REALLY miss Flash. Not being able to use websites (google video, anyone?) just kind of sucks a whole, whole lot.

Have you tried Mac-On-Linux yet? Is it actually usable? Can it share the same filesystem as Linux like vmware?

]]> By: Tavis http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-1593 Tavis Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:19:12 +0000 http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/#comment-1593 Hey, just to let you know, I tried out MoneyDance on my iBook G4 (just for you; I have no intention of using it myself...I use Grisbi), and I got it to work with Blackdown Java Platform 2. I'm not going through the whole program, but it seems to work fine. Regarding your Palm, I actually had the opposite experience. I have a Sony Clie, which runs Palm OS but won't sync with Mac OS X without buying software. It works flawlessly with KDE PIM. The only thing I "miss", with my iBook running Kubuntu, is Flash, but I can't stand Flash anyway. If I really need to see something "flashy" I can connect with Mac-On-Linux Hey, just to let you know, I tried out MoneyDance on my iBook G4 (just for you; I have no intention of using it myself…I use Grisbi), and I got it to work with Blackdown Java Platform 2.

I’m not going through the whole program, but it seems to work fine.

Regarding your Palm, I actually had the opposite experience. I have a Sony Clie, which runs Palm OS but won’t sync with Mac OS X without buying software. It works flawlessly with KDE PIM.

The only thing I “miss”, with my iBook running Kubuntu, is Flash, but I can’t stand Flash anyway. If I really need to see something “flashy” I can connect with Mac-On-Linux

]]> By: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-591 Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:39:39 +0000 http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/#comment-591 Hi Dalibor!! Yeah, I was very disappointed that I couldn't use the Open Source implementations of Java to get this working. You're right--Moneydance is not OSS either, which just adds to the problem. And yeah, I've been using Fink for as long as I've had this powerbook, but it's problematic in that it lags (understandably so) behind released versions of packages. Case in point, and very apropos to this discussion... After finding out I couldn't use Moneydance in Linux, I thought I'd give gnucash a chance, since it's supposed to be able to do OFX protocol now. However, the version available in Fink is the very-much-older version that still uses gtk1. The obvious answer to this is "well, help them get the Fink package up to date", but that's slightly less desirable than just being able to try the thing out. =:) This whole experience very much reinforces the strength of OSS in a personally-felt way; and the lack of OSS here is the true failure point--not Linux. In other words, some might say that Linux is not truly a viable option for this platform (PowerPC) being that I am having to run OS X on the machine. That's not true. Linux is quite functional on this platform. The failure point is in any non-Open-Source software (Java, Moneydance, Flash, and Windows codecs, to mention a few specifically problematic to me). You're truly not free to choose where and how you want to run software if you have to rely on closed-source vendors. But then, I'm preaching to the choir here. =;) Anyhow, thanks for the comment!! =:) Hi Dalibor!!

Yeah, I was very disappointed that I couldn’t use the Open Source implementations of Java to get this working. You’re right–Moneydance is not OSS either, which just adds to the problem. And yeah, I’ve been using Fink for as long as I’ve had this powerbook, but it’s problematic in that it lags (understandably so) behind released versions of packages.

Case in point, and very apropos to this discussion… After finding out I couldn’t use Moneydance in Linux, I thought I’d give gnucash a chance, since it’s supposed to be able to do OFX protocol now. However, the version available in Fink is the very-much-older version that still uses gtk1. The obvious answer to this is “well, help them get the Fink package up to date”, but that’s slightly less desirable than just being able to try the thing out. =:)

This whole experience very much reinforces the strength of OSS in a personally-felt way; and the lack of OSS here is the true failure point–not Linux. In other words, some might say that Linux is not truly a viable option for this platform (PowerPC) being that I am having to run OS X on the machine. That’s not true. Linux is quite functional on this platform. The failure point is in any non-Open-Source software (Java, Moneydance, Flash, and Windows codecs, to mention a few specifically problematic to me). You’re truly not free to choose where and how you want to run software if you have to rely on closed-source vendors. But then, I’m preaching to the choir here. =;)

Anyhow, thanks for the comment!! =:)

]]> By: Dalibor Topic http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Dalibor Topic Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:06:56 +0000 http://movingparts.net/2006/04/16/after-all-that-back-to-os-x/#comment-590 Sorry to hear that Kaffe/Sable/Cacao didn't work out. Apparently Moneydance is not open source, so debugging its problems seems harder than necessary :/ Otoh, if you need KDE on OS X, check out Fink. cheers, dalibor topic Sorry to hear that Kaffe/Sable/Cacao didn’t work out. Apparently Moneydance is not open source, so debugging its problems seems harder than necessary :/

Otoh, if you need KDE on OS X, check out Fink.

cheers,
dalibor topic

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