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	<title>Comments on: This Just In: Linux Is Better Than OS X</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Gross</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I installed the Mozilla flash plug-in via synaptic and it works for some of the flash-based websites.  The sound didn&#039;t work right and when it encounters a flash that it doesn&#039;t like it merely kills the browser.  So, flash is less of an issue now.  

I haven&#039;t had a chance to play with your X11 touchpad hint, so that is next on my plate.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I installed the Mozilla flash plug-in via synaptic and it works for some of the flash-based websites.  The sound didn&#8217;t work right and when it encounters a flash that it doesn&#8217;t like it merely kills the browser.  So, flash is less of an issue now.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had a chance to play with your X11 touchpad hint, so that is next on my plate.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Eagleson</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Eagleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, not all OS X windows - just the X11 ones. That means it&#039;s still kinda clunky - you have to Command-Tab to X11, and then option-tab to where you want to be in X11.

still, it&#039;s a bit closer to working. Quartz-WM, which is Apple&#039;s default manager, isn&#039;t all that great, apart from making X11 look more like OS X.

And yeah, the X11 apps aren&#039;t as stable on OS X as they are on Linux, I think that&#039;s true. Not sure if that&#039;s a result of Apple&#039;s X11 implementation, or the changes that are sometimes needed to port to OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, not all OS X windows &#8211; just the X11 ones. That means it&#8217;s still kinda clunky &#8211; you have to Command-Tab to X11, and then option-tab to where you want to be in X11.</p>
<p>still, it&#8217;s a bit closer to working. Quartz-WM, which is Apple&#8217;s default manager, isn&#8217;t all that great, apart from making X11 look more like OS X.</p>
<p>And yeah, the X11 apps aren&#8217;t as stable on OS X as they are on Linux, I think that&#8217;s true. Not sure if that&#8217;s a result of Apple&#8217;s X11 implementation, or the changes that are sometimes needed to port to OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Eagleson</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Eagleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I definitely agree with your point that it pretty much comes down to what you&#039;re used to and what you&#039;re most productive with.

This is why I use OS X rather than Linux, actually - I&#039;m really used to a lot of the slick little shortcuts that aren&#039;t quite the same or don&#039;t exist in a Linux-based environment, like Command-Space bringing up the Spotlight search (this is the best way to launch apps/documents/etc - I don&#039;t really use the file manager much anymore), or Exposé&#039;s window management technique (which, fyi, when you press F9, lets you see all windows including X11 windows).

To each his own, though, and I&#039;m sorry it cost that much to find out OS X isn&#039;t the right environment for you. I now feel kinda guilty for encouraging you that way... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I definitely agree with your point that it pretty much comes down to what you&#8217;re used to and what you&#8217;re most productive with.</p>
<p>This is why I use OS X rather than Linux, actually &#8211; I&#8217;m really used to a lot of the slick little shortcuts that aren&#8217;t quite the same or don&#8217;t exist in a Linux-based environment, like Command-Space bringing up the Spotlight search (this is the best way to launch apps/documents/etc &#8211; I don&#8217;t really use the file manager much anymore), or Exposé&#8217;s window management technique (which, fyi, when you press F9, lets you see all windows including X11 windows).</p>
<p>To each his own, though, and I&#8217;m sorry it cost that much to find out OS X isn&#8217;t the right environment for you. I now feel kinda guilty for encouraging you that way&#8230; <img src='http://movingparts.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm.  Does Enlightenment also Option-tab through native OS X windows too?  That might indeed be an option for me that I hadn&#039;t thought of.  Although, it is worth saying that X11 apps don&#039;t seem quite as stable on OS X as they do normally.  For instance, amarok and kontact have both crashed in weird places on me where they never would have on Linux.

Anyway, Hi!  =:)  And please let me know on the tabbing-through-aqua-or-whatever-windows thing!  =:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm.  Does Enlightenment also Option-tab through native OS X windows too?  That might indeed be an option for me that I hadn&#8217;t thought of.  Although, it is worth saying that X11 apps don&#8217;t seem quite as stable on OS X as they do normally.  For instance, amarok and kontact have both crashed in weird places on me where they never would have on Linux.</p>
<p>Anyway, Hi!  =:)  And please let me know on the tabbing-through-aqua-or-whatever-windows thing!  =:)</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Eagleson</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Eagleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah indeed.

Sorry to hear of your woes. I&#039;ll pray that you find a solution (whether that&#039;s new hardware, or software solutions).

This may not be worth the overhead/effort, but I run Enlightenment as my X window manager on OS X, which lets me Option-Tab through all X11 windows. I haven&#039;t used a wide variety of X11 WMs, but most would let you do that, I bet.

Not exactly what you&#039;re looking for, but it does mostly work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah indeed.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear of your woes. I&#8217;ll pray that you find a solution (whether that&#8217;s new hardware, or software solutions).</p>
<p>This may not be worth the overhead/effort, but I run Enlightenment as my X window manager on OS X, which lets me Option-Tab through all X11 windows. I haven&#8217;t used a wide variety of X11 WMs, but most would let you do that, I bet.</p>
<p>Not exactly what you&#8217;re looking for, but it does mostly work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 02:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim!

Please let me know how you fare on the flash thing!

And I&#039;m not sure if this is what you&#039;re looking for, but I did get my touch pad working very well under X as described here:

http://movingparts.net/2006/04/12/kubuntu-on-a-powerbook/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim!</p>
<p>Please let me know how you fare on the flash thing!</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure if this is what you&#8217;re looking for, but I did get my touch pad working very well under X as described here:</p>
<p><a href="http://movingparts.net/2006/04/12/kubuntu-on-a-powerbook/" rel="nofollow">http://movingparts.net/2006/04/12/kubuntu-on-a-powerbook/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Gross</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 23:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I just downloaded a .qt and an .mpg file and they both work flawlessly with my current set up.  If only I could get a decent flash player I&#039;d be happy(er).  I really can&#039;t complain too much, though.

Now I am going to try to find gflash and try to figure out the whole xgl thing. 

A quick question for you:  I found a program under MacOSX that allowed me to turn my touchpad into one that overcame the typical limitation of moving the mouse.  I was able to enable double-tapping, setting up part of the pad to scroll through Firefox and other apps, etc.  Do you know of any apps that would allow me to do that with Linux/PPC?  I&#039;m currently running standard Ubuntu Dapper (not Kubuntu). 

Shalom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I just downloaded a .qt and an .mpg file and they both work flawlessly with my current set up.  If only I could get a decent flash player I&#8217;d be happy(er).  I really can&#8217;t complain too much, though.</p>
<p>Now I am going to try to find gflash and try to figure out the whole xgl thing. </p>
<p>A quick question for you:  I found a program under MacOSX that allowed me to turn my touchpad into one that overcame the typical limitation of moving the mouse.  I was able to enable double-tapping, setting up part of the pad to scroll through Firefox and other apps, etc.  Do you know of any apps that would allow me to do that with Linux/PPC?  I&#8217;m currently running standard Ubuntu Dapper (not Kubuntu). </p>
<p>Shalom!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 13:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim!

Nice little laptop there!!  =:)  Hmmmm.  I am surprised that you&#039;re able to play wmv&#039;s.  Have you tried quicktime yet?

And yeah, I&#039;m pretty fed up with the whole proprietary software situation on Linux PPC.  I understand that it&#039;s kind of a niche market and it&#039;s nowhere near as large as x86 Linux, but still... 

I&#039;ve not tried accelerated X yet.  I had been meaning to--to try out some of the neato Xgl stuff that Novell has been sponsoring.  It sounds like that&#039;s not going to be possible either, from what you&#039;re saying.  

Blah!!  =:/

Thanks for the comment!!  And definitely, Shalom to you too.  =:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim!</p>
<p>Nice little laptop there!!  =:)  Hmmmm.  I am surprised that you&#8217;re able to play wmv&#8217;s.  Have you tried quicktime yet?</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;m pretty fed up with the whole proprietary software situation on Linux PPC.  I understand that it&#8217;s kind of a niche market and it&#8217;s nowhere near as large as x86 Linux, but still&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not tried accelerated X yet.  I had been meaning to&#8211;to try out some of the neato Xgl stuff that Novell has been sponsoring.  It sounds like that&#8217;s not going to be possible either, from what you&#8217;re saying.  </p>
<p>Blah!!  =:/</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!!  And definitely, Shalom to you too.  =:)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Gross</title>
		<link>http://movingparts.net/2006/04/27/this-just-in-linux-is-better-than-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 15:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a, gasp, ibook g3/600.  I just updated to Dapper and have not had some of the limitations that you&#039;ve mentioned.  For instance, I downloaded a wmv file and was able to play it (much to my admitted surprise).  I have also installed the Quicktime libraries but haven&#039;t tried to use them yet.  I might just pop one of my Quicktime-based CDs in the computer and see if it works or not.

Having said that, I do agree with you on the Java and Flash thing.  It is very frustrating when you can&#039;t do something because Adobe or Sun won&#039;t produce what you need/want.  I also don&#039;t like the fact that ATI drivers aren&#039;t available for Linux/PPC.  I would love to have truly accellerated graphics (different versions of X produce different frame rates which vary widely).

Well, I&#039;ve enjoyed your blog.  Keep up the interesting commentary.  Shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a, gasp, ibook g3/600.  I just updated to Dapper and have not had some of the limitations that you&#8217;ve mentioned.  For instance, I downloaded a wmv file and was able to play it (much to my admitted surprise).  I have also installed the Quicktime libraries but haven&#8217;t tried to use them yet.  I might just pop one of my Quicktime-based CDs in the computer and see if it works or not.</p>
<p>Having said that, I do agree with you on the Java and Flash thing.  It is very frustrating when you can&#8217;t do something because Adobe or Sun won&#8217;t produce what you need/want.  I also don&#8217;t like the fact that ATI drivers aren&#8217;t available for Linux/PPC.  I would love to have truly accellerated graphics (different versions of X produce different frame rates which vary widely).</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve enjoyed your blog.  Keep up the interesting commentary.  Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;ve got an IBM ThinkPad X40 that I **love**!!  So I think I&#039;ll pass!  Perhaps eBay? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve got an IBM ThinkPad X40 that I **love**!!  So I think I&#8217;ll pass!  Perhaps eBay? <img src='http://movingparts.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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